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Yuri Bezmenov's avatar

Thanks for uncovering this disgusting izzat. The admin must hold scammers accountable and end the H1B program. Anything less would be a betrayal.

BradK (Afuera!)'s avatar

Agreed. Trump's recent H-1B remarks were extremely disappointing.

Sammy's avatar

Isnt it just business in all industries in different flavors ?

Tidewater Lord's avatar

Thanks for this. Gonna move my money and cancel my account with them

Alp's avatar
Nov 25Edited

Having worked for 20+ years with Indians, let me elaborate some of their practices:

1. As a subordinate, he/she will appear most loyal & hardworking. This is a sham. He just wants to gain your trust and use you.

He will make simple tasks seem complicated and complicated tasks done by non Indians as simple.

He will try to create misunderstandings and differences between you and your other white subordinates.

If any vacancy comes up, he will tell you about a fellow Indian who is “perfect for your requirements.

He will go to the extent of sabotaging the work of fellow non Indians to get them fired.

2. As a peer, never trust them. Snitching & lying are their national pastime.

3. Once promoted to a position of authority, the concept of “merit” & “equal opportunity” is immediately discarded.

They will hire / promote fellow Indians, with the following pecking order:

A. Same caste (usually upper caste Hindus)

B. Same region.

C. Same religion (Hindu)

D. Other Indians.

As said earlier, lying / dishonesty comes natural to them.

BradK (Afuera!)'s avatar

The scheming and subversion (no pun intended) seem to be concentrated mostly in the manager strata, with increasing intensity as they rise in station. And yes, those managers are almost exclusively Brahmins. With an arrogant swagger befitting someone who truly believes themselves superior to those around him.

I've worked with engineers who have none of this though. Other than difficulties with the accent, and many junior level engineers who have greatly overstated their actual skills, most are honest, hard workers. As you stated, there is just as much if not more discrimination within the Indian bloc itself as there is with Indians vs. Cowboys.

Something has to change, though I have little faith it will.

globeseeyar's avatar

You are mistaken, Brahmins are not part this. This is lower caste communities such as kammas, and others as such

Dirt Farmer's avatar

They are rather dishonest

globeseeyar's avatar

Isn’t this the nature of most people? I’m Indian and turned around many failed projects using both management and technical solution and skills developing home grown modules by hand. No white, black and brown showed gratitude. The problem is inherent in a capitalist society and where profit and completion matters. Don’t blame Indians while your lazy ass can’t even code a line

Luffy's avatar

Eh, I worked at C1 for four years. The Indian situation there is pretty egregious, and depending on the business unit, outright obvious.

One standard practice I observed by those H1-Xs that were somewhat technically literate was to repackage open source solutions or other people's work and pass it off as their own invention. Miraculously delivering seemingly bespoke ("homegrown") solutions with little to no lead time. They would get showered with praise and pay raises for basically what amounts to theft of intellectual property. It happened to me, and is one of the main reasons I left.

So yeah, Indians are to blame here. I'll give you nod for the situation at C1 and other tech companies as being a symptom of a capitalist system. A capitalist system that is broken, and more often than not, rewards bad actors.

Talentedbutexploited's avatar

This is partially correct. A group called Telgu also slang referred as Gultis know no meaning of merit or equal opportunity. If there is one gulti manager very soon the entire team will be gultis. They don't care or any other Indians too

Suitengu Chōji's avatar

Rather than DMing, I figure I would comment here instead -- is there anything I can do to help? I've been looking for work for over 2.5 years now as a software engineer with over 15 years of experience, and I'll do anything to bring these fecaloids and their complicit employers down. It is much preferable to crawling away to die in a ditch like a proper White Male once I run out of savings.

I have years worth of emails from these j--ts and my dealings with them -- a few on behalf of Capital One for that matter -- though mostly they have been in the tech sector. I'm willing to share any of these. At this point, I even have an email filter for 93 j--t shell companies, as well as 19 Elbonian ones.

Indian's avatar

Regarding kickbacks, I recall a similar situation at JPMC where a director-level employee running such a scheme was terminated — and yes, that individual happened to be Indian, which was disappointing to see. But on the other hand, there’s also the case of Charlie Javice, an American national who scammed that very same institution. Wrongdoing isn’t tied to any one nationality — people who commit fraud simply need an opportunity, not a specific country of origin.

If there is truth to the OP’s claims, I hope Capital One takes firm action just as JPMC did. I have zero sympathy for anyone who engages in scams. However, I strongly believe we should not generalize an entire group of people based on the actions of a few. Labeling Indians as “scums” only spreads unnecessary hate.

There are millions of Indians — myself included — who left everything behind, came here legally, and have built their lives in the U.S. for decades. Our children were born here, we contribute to society, and we consider this country our home. It’s painful to see broad stereotypes take root, and I genuinely worry about what this means for the future my kids will grow up in.

Phil's avatar

It's not just Indians; all Asians have the same mentality. That's the fact.

bvd9701's avatar

Go back from whence you came. You’ve made yourselves HATED in this country. Leave!

Wes Tyler's avatar

Low IQ troglodytes are mistaking people operating under shared incentives as an ethnic conspiracy to colonize American tech jobs. It's actually simple as fuck:

- People from less economically advantageous geography choose to migrate to more economically advantageous geography to improve the lives of themselves and their loved ones

- The geography they overwhelmingly choose is the United States since it pays the highest in the world for tech labor (double or triple or more compared to most other countries in the world)

- A few greedy individuals who worm their way into management find loopholes, operate with plausible deniability, and engineer scenarios where they can manipulate hiring practices to benefit themselves and their friends. This is not a coordinated effort to displace Americans. It is merely a clever (though unethical) exploitation of broken systems for personal gain. Anyone at the intersection of power, intelligence, and moral paucity would do the same.

BradK (Afuera!)'s avatar

As someone with 35+ years in the software wars, I can confirm. And it's only getting worse. U.S. companies complain there are not enough "qualified" Americans to fill the jobs, yet mistreat then dismiss the ones they have.

If you had an 18 year-old White son or daughter, would you encourage them to pursue a career in I.T.? Graduating with likely substantial debt (and the inevitable Marxist brainwashing) only to find themselves competing in an increasingly racist and anti-American workplace with Third-world candidates?

I wonder what the impact of the "A.I. Revolution" will be, especially on entry level I.T. staffing? Once the mighty MBA's (who truly run American business) believe that a LLM can replace an entire department, that department is as good as gone.

On a related note, this is why the Chinese are kicking our ass. They see and plan years -- even decades -- out. American business cannot see past the end of the current quarter.

Hana C. Waumbek's avatar

I was PIP'ed in 2010 - the worst the manager could come with for critique was "thinking like a software engineer". (I'm an EE/Physics engineer who knows how to code my own stuff, but not a "true" software deliverable engineer.) What a disgrace of a company (the program has been listed a few times since in the news as a near-failure).!

The problem with software (for people who aren't interested in it) is that it is very abstract. We don't need to teach software to everyone, but figure out how to map its abstractions to real life.

Barry's avatar

This is 100% true. I’m a manager who works closely with one of the vendor groups mentioned and one of the senior manager, and the behavior I’ve seen is deeply concerning. Their model appears to rely on hiring immigrant workers at extremely low salaries while billing the client company at premium rates. For example, they might bill $150+ per hour while paying the employee $50—or even less—and pocketing the difference.

Many of these vendor groups also use affiliated companies overseas to process payments & kickbacks for the hiring managers and directors outside of US, allowing them to avoid paper trail, proper U.S. tax reporting and potentially bypass employment regulations. This creates a situation where workers are underpaid, vulnerable, and dependent on the vendor for immigration status, while the vendors profit enormously.

These vendors operate in networks that are closely tied through personal relationships—sometimes through social groups and cricket sports clubs in the area. Several individuals in leadership roles appear to be connected through these networks, which helps them maintain control over hiring pipelines and contract opportunities. This makes the entire setup harder to detect and easier for bad actors to exploit.

The concerning part is that the workers themselves often don’t realize they’re being taken advantage of, or they’re afraid to speak up due to their visa situation. When payroll is managed through overseas entities and compensation isn’t transparent, it raises serious red flags for labor law violations, immigration compliance issues, and potential tax evasion.

All of this needs proper investigation by the appropriate authorities—whether it’s the IRS, the Department of Labor, or DHS—because these practices hurt both the workers and Capital One that believe they are paying for qualified talent.

Anyone can look up public H-1B data and vendor registrations, and the patterns are there. This isn’t an isolated case—it’s a systemic issue that deserves attention.

lhtness's avatar

I used to work at a software consulting company (mostly white guys), and I made around 100k + benefits but billed at over $200/hour. I don't really get the business model--companies could hire full time employees to do the same work for a third the cost--but it seems to be popular.

Hana C. Waumbek's avatar

FWIW, I cancelled a very much unused Capital One store-themed card. When they sent a survey, that is when I had the opportunity to give them a link to your substack as well as other online sources about the H-1B Capital One story.

Hana C. Waumbek's avatar

Here's a follow-up on the consequences of cancelling an unused card: my credit rating dropped. Granted, the rating drop less than a percentage point, as the max limit on the cancelled Capital One card was relatively small, but it is infuriating all the same.

We need credit ratings for the credit companies.

Dirt Farmer's avatar

Keep your account open to keep your credit rating up. It costs them more than it's worth to keep an unused account open. When they squawk about closing the account for non-use (usually after three years) then charge something less than a couple of dollars, pay it off, and go another three years without using.

Theophilus Chilton's avatar

Great exposé. I am going to cancel my account with them and take my business elsewhere.

Diana Prince 🦸‍♀️'s avatar

Wow. I've been with CapitalOne for years....looks like it's time to move my money elsewhere.

NotThis.NotThat's avatar

Seen this play out for well over a decade at places I worked (a certain Korean automaker’s captive lending division in Irvine, CA). Visa-based consulting companies bringing in barely competent workers to undercut billing rates for independent contractors that are local to the area (originally from India myself, rooted locally since the mid-90s)

Kris's avatar
Nov 29Edited

Whole Dallas IT is controlled by this mafia and even my self not getting a job in Dallas, as I don't have any contacts. This is being done through the caste system of India. To name a few, Fidelity, Verizon, Bank of America, American Airlines, Wells Fargo, Citi,Charles Schwab AT&T, PepsiCo etc. they have formed min-india colonies and don't let anyone join unless, u belong to their caste back in India. Btw, I am Indian American and I know what's going on. And the victims are the new generation kids who are not given opportunity. By the way, Fidelity hires opt guys and sponsor their visas. It's a fully coordinated and well orchestrated ring and they defy the USCIS. Just visit MacArthur Blvd in Irving. There are 100s of Indian restaurants openly hire MS-OPT guys/girls and throwing challenge to USCiS and ICE. It is such a mafia in whole Dallas

Paul's avatar

Ranjit Kasanabonia and Satish Ramachandran, senior employees at Capital One, have connections to Artifiction LLC and other companies in the Glen Allen area, where they primarily reside and own several properties—likely purchased with funds from questionable fraud and profits. The registered president of Artifiction LLC is Bhasker Karru, who is a friend and associate of the aforementioned hiring managers.

Artifiction is a sub-vendor body shop, and all of their H1-B filing data is publicly available. They collaborate with a few primary staffing firms to create a layer of indirection, though many contracts are on a C2C (Corp-to-Corp) basis. These hiring managers exclusively interview candidates from these sub-vendor body shops and tend to hire contractors from these related companies to profit personally. Additionally, these body shops have affiliated companies in India that pay the hiring managers and associated directors in local Indian currency, helping to avoid direct paper trails. This is just one example.

globeseeyar's avatar

This mafia descended in America from 2005 onwards when H1 B visas temporarily increased by congress to 285K or so( recollecting from

Memory so I could be off)

Amber Bright's avatar

I've always questioned why all banks refuse to stop any transaction that's going outside of the USA. This has always been an inside job for many years.

Phil's avatar

Watch the Bloomberg channel, most of the financial analysts they interview are indians.

Bloody Fissures's avatar

This is incredible. Can't believe this is even real.